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thank you Hey greetings everyone It’s Naomi Wolf and I have yet another hero
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slash heroine This heroine is actually archetypal in my view and that’s
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Alexandra Latipova or Sasha Latipova the uh author of due diligence and art one
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of the most moving and beautiful and important Substacks on Substack Welcome
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Sasha Latipova Hi Naomi great to talk to you again Great to have you And for those of you
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who um are less familiar with Sasha Latapova’s background she spent 25 years
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in um pharma research and she is now this extraordinary writer and beautiful
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visual artist and I don’t like most visual artists these days So that’s saying quite a lot Um and she’s been one
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of the most steadfast and dedicated voices for I’m not even going to say health freedom because to me it’s so
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much bigger than that She’s been one of the most steadfast and dedicated voices for you know human humane values and
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human decency in this whole crisis of the last 5 years So having said that
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just before we jump in I want to strongly urge you to go to her Substack
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and support it Um this is one of those voices that absolutely we can’t do
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without Um and she’s broken story after story since she sort of appeared in the
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health freedom space and now the general kind of commentary space as a a really
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extraordinary researcher Nothing gets past her She sees patterns no one else
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can see And she’s calling our attention to a really important pattern right now
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So let’s jump right in Um miscarriages are in the news again Um
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you know makes you want to tear your hair out because we’ve both been working on this forever But you really were
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ahead of the pack with a uh documentation that you published two years ago having to do with um a whole
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different data set than the data sets with which I’m familiar and that’s the Vsafe database Do you want to just jump
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right in and tell people what you found Right So so Vape database um just for
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those who don’t know where it came from it was um part of uh what HHS um FDA CDC
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promised to the public uh to collect in clinical trials of the original uh Fiser
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and Maderna um co shots And so those are the trials that were going on in 2020
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And every participant in that trial received an app uh which was called Vsafe where they were supposed to uh uh
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submit and this was like voluntary submit your uh adverse events
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information into the app and it was also capturing even though the
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uh pregnancy was an exclusion criteria from these clinical trials and it was actually pretty similar What does that
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mean Sorry to interrupt but what does that mean an exclusion criteria So for for clinical trials they always specify
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inclusion and and exclusion criteria in the protocol Inclusion means we want to
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enroll these types of people you know with these characteristics of age demographics you know health status so
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forth And then exclusion is these are the ones that we definitely don’t want to include and correct Yeah and and
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usually it’s you know they’re they’re pretty extensive both both categories and for these clinical trials as is
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normal for any new technology uh the pregnancy was very strictly supposed to
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be excluded So they were requiring uh people who were even men and women to
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abstain from sex to have uh two types of contraception to not be planning to have
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children for women of childbearing potential So it was very very uh carefully specified how they should be
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completely excluded Yet uh somehow miraculously in the entire uh Fiser
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clinical trial there were 3,500 pregnant women showed up even though it was
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completely excluded So 3,500 pregnant women they received this Vsafe um app
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just like all participants and out of those uh 3500 uh something like over a thousand
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um or 1,200 total numbers submitted their results for pregnancy outcomes for
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pregnancy of which uh about 800 um 800
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women were included in the uh study that was official paper published based on
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BAFE data for pregnancy outcomes uh with by Shima Bakuro and colleagues
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and this was a big big paper in New England Journal of Medicine very prestigious uh they published paper
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based on these 800 women this safe data and they said totally no problem for
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pregnancy no increase in miscarriage no nothing uh we several of us uh commented
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on that paper and I I read the paper and the paper was completely misleading and actually fraudulently constructed that
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that whole calculation was fraudulently constructed and it was easy to deconstru constructed and use correct mass uh and
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calculate the true miscarriage rates from that data from the same data that they provided in that paper and that’s
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what I what I published two years ago and that data set shows very clearly if
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you use correct denominators to calculate the miscarriage rate that miscarriage rate was over
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80% and uh the uh in addition to that there’s also so miscarriage is losing
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pregnancy before 20 weeks of gestation Mhm And after 20 weeks of gestation if
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the pregnancy is lost and the baby died it’s called still birth Right So from
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that from the same data set it’s also evident that still birth rates went up
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about 300% So triple 300% 300% Yeah Increase God So this is you
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know pretty shocking Um of course and I really want to stress those of you who
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have sort of heard me try to kind of grab the world by the ears over the last
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couple of years and say look at what’s in this data set over here the Fiser
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documents Dr Sasha Pova is is bringing up a whole
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other research set of data points right She’s talking about um Vssafe data which
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was then used to um create what she calls a fraudulent I totally agree with
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you by the way uh kind of gold standard you know conclusion by Shimab
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Bukuru and colleagues which is referenced all over the place was referenced by the CDC everyone who was a
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spokes model drew upon it and so Sasha Pova is saying the math they used is
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fraudulent and that by doing correct math she’s seeing the same thing that we saw which
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is this catastrophic uh catastrophic miscarriage rate and the reason I’m stressing this is that in journalism
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when you have two independent sources and two independent researchers who reach the same conclusion that is a you
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know more than a red flag that’s a fact you know that that enters into the realm of fact and also the realm of news
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because you can’t just write it off as one blip one data set you faulty methodology whatever So let me now go
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back to you Sashaova and say what is it that um Shimabukuru and his colleagues
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did with the math and the data that you didn’t do that led them that allowed
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them to reach this nonsensical conclusion saying everything is fine Right Yes So so they they took 827 women
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that that that the data that they had and out of the 827 women uh 700 were
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injected in the third trimester of pregnancy So after 20 weeks of gestation
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right And and then they to calculate the miscarriage rate which is before 20
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weeks they included the 700 women into right So but you can’t have a
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miscarriage after 20 weeks of giving It’s a still birth Did they count the still births No they did not count still
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births or didn’t provide any statistic for that Uh now they also somehow uh
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Yeah So so that’s why that’s how they came up with the claim that the miscarriage is not increased because
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they artificially increase the denominator by including subjects that didn’t call that were irrelevant for the
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miscarriage there already after 20 weeks Unbelievable And and so they so that
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makes anime so much higher But now if you looked only at the women who received the injection in the first and
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second trimester and then miscarried it was uh something like 104 out of 127
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No Yeah Oh my god Yeah And and that gives you 82% or so Uh
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oh my god Oh my god But this is and it and it was a blatant
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obvious lie and it was obvious because you could go now in everywhere in the abstract in the title in the conclusions
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and discussion they always talk about it’s not increased it’s not increased it’s totally normal it’s compare it to
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normal background rate and then the only place where this is this math comes out and it’s evident is in one of the tables
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and in the footnotes to the table So somebody had to skip through all of that go to the table go to the footnotes and
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then do this calculation right And several of us did independently actually
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sever literally unbelievable Sorry Sasha This is this is how propaganda is made
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This is how they hide it that they and they hire these prestigious people authors There were there were I don’t
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know 40 authors on that paper It was incredible It was in New England medicine And then every newspaper picks
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up that headline then we get labeled as conspiracies and crazies and antibactors
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while we’re just pointing to here like 1 + 1 doesn’t equal 10 it equals two Okay
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And it’s just basic hideous I And I can’t tell you I’m sure this has
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happened to you too I can’t tell you how many times when I try to bring forward the over 80% that we found in a separate
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data set will push back at me by citing Shimabukuru and saying look they say
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it’s perfectly fine and the the spokes models on X and on all the social media
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the influencers who were you know underwritten by pharma or by the B administration um all used that study to
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say you are insane if you try to raise an alarm about miscarriages Look everything is fine Um that is really
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evil And may I just say that that way of faking the data creating fake categories
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or word play that you know hides
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numbers or hiding the truth in a footnote is something that we’ve seen again in the separate data set over and
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over That’s the bad math and the bad faith science of these evil people in multiple venues So I’m just validating
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that you know you’re not seeing something they they don’t use as a tactic in other places You’re seeing
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something they figured out Yeah Oh yeah It’s it’s it’s a it’s a practice It’s a
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totally you know standard operating procedure for these people to do it this way And also in addition to this the
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Shimabakuro uh in the authors when they published this New England Journal of Medicine big paper they said it’s
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preliminary data Oh we’re still waiting for the additional there was additional
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I don’t know 1,200 subjects or so that they needed to get from the Vsafe database Uh that that data became
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available and Shimabakuran authors lost interest in publishing Wow Have you
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looked at the data that became available eventually Uh no I know it’s I know it’s foyer It’s been foyed by Aaron Siri um
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and it’s been it’s been published but I personally like I don’t have capacity to reanalyze the very large data sets like
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this that requires specialist tools and database tools and and I I got what I
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needed out of this and also I did the I did a review of the preclinical data for both Fiser and Merna and Maderna
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actually nobody else other than me that I know of has ever read that that
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publication has that’s true we didn’t get we didn’t get to the Maderna data our our project dispanded before they
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could analyze it Go ahead tell us what you found Right So so the MANA data that was very interesting So it’s not
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actually even the data It’s it’s um documentation uh preclinical uh package that MADNA
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submitted to FDA as part of their again original uh EUA for their product in
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2020 And that was foyer by judicial watch Uh and this this documentation was
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given to me originally by the journalist who uh writes for them on these topics
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and he wanted my opinion as a pharma developer of what was in that documentation The documentation was
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about 700 pages long It was nonsense It was I’ve never seen anything so bad I I
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my jaw was on the floor and I was fairly early on in my sort of discovery and research on this and I I just could not
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reconcile how this garbage excuse my language can be used by a pharmaceutical
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company with a straight face with FDA to get anything approved Uh you know
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much less something that would be pushed on everyone It was um so the problem with it was it was uh most of it about I
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don’t know 500 pages out of 700 pages was one study that was conducted in 2017
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on a completely different product I can’t I can’t stand it It was copied
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multiple times It was multiple versions put together to to beef up the number of
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pages with this irrelevant study But it was a biodistribution study and there
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was no other biodistribution studies done on this pro So they were using this as a biodistribution It was bad The
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results of it were bad It was biodistributing everywhere It was going into all organs just as as with fizer
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But again irrelevant previous product that was never approved for it failed in clinical development but they’re using
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it to approve this one now Unbelievable In the other 200 pages of the of that
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was again multiple copies of multiple versions of non good clinical um
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practices no good laboratory practices just you know random experiments Again majority of them were for different
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products not the spike Um uh and there was a v there was one reproductive
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toxicology study done which uh was required from MANA by their DoD contract
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and that was there was not incl they didn’t include the full report They said we’re still working on it but here’s a
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little little blurb a summary of the result and in the summary they said we had statistically significant increase
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in skeletal malf for the babies You broke that story I remember
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Yeah Right and and and they provided even numbers how statistically significant and that’s a major marker
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for uh for fetal abnormalities devel and uh maternal abnormalities also the the
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mothers the pregnant pregnant rats were sick were losing
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hair and not eating and like for rat to stop eating rat is dying Okay Uh and and
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so that it was horrible toxicities in in mothers skeletal abnormalities in babies
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and they submitted it to the FDA So the FDA had it in their possession when they issued the AU EUA to to date the FDA
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label says there are no statistically significant skeletal abnormalities found in this Yeah Oh my god Sasha what you’re
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saying is so important and we’ve got a lot of people listening and they’re saying listening carefully Um they’re
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reacting with horror I want to ask you because what you’re saying is so critical and your your brain is so
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gigantic could you just slow it down a little bit And um also if you know if
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you bring up something with an acronym like DoD or EUA just do us lay people a little bit of favor and say you know
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emergency youth authorization Department of Defense we’re we’re racing to keep up with you Okay Okay Sorry I get excited
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No no as you as you should I mean what you are you’re a very rare person I mean
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you have 25 years of understanding what you’re looking at with these documents and you’ve had the courage to kind of
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cross over to the side of letting humanity know what these dangers are Um
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probably at great risk to yourself I I don’t to this day kind of know how you manage it but um but what you’re saying
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is incredibly important and and we’re we’re all we’re all kind of hanging on every word So let me restate kind of
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from my much lesser expertise what I think is critical about what you just
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said You said that the Maderna documents are a mess and I just want to again
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validate that we were supposed to have a Maderna documents book and we couldn’t do it because the the initial release
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was so messy and catastrophic no one could it was like it was like they
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dumped it in in kind of research garbage right that that you couldn’t lift out
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any sense It was like they put in a blender and and no one could make sense of it Um and then you said that
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nonetheless you could see that they submitted an old irrelevant study and that the studies they submitted related
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to this product in pregnancy it caused skeletal mal forations in the mice And I
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remember that vividly I remember pictures Weren’t there pictures of the skeletal mal forations in the mice and
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that the mother mice or mother rats got sick Pregnant rats got sick stopped
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eating And you point out that when mother rats stop eating or when rats stop eating they’re dying I used to have
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a pet rat I know you’re right It takes a lot for a rat not to eat I mean that’s a
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tiny little anecdote but I’m I’m relating to what you’re saying So basically skipping
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ahead the FDA had this in their custody They have it in their custody They know
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that mammals who are pregnant will get sick sick to death and their babies will
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have skeletal malf formations They’re lying about it to this day and they just
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the brand new rebranded our friends HHS has just announced that they’re taking
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this injection away from pregnant women But in fact as you and Shannon Joy and
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uh Dr Mary Tally Bowden shared in our conversation on Friday they’re still
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making it available for injection to pregnant women Is that not correct Sasha Yeah Yeah this is correct In fact in the
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new brand new FDA policy published by uh Dr Mary and Prasad in New England
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Journal of Medicine you know just about a week ago a couple weeks ago they published it you know brand new MA
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policy We’re going to restrict mRNA shots only to healthy to unhealthy
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people targeted protection Okay Uh so in that policy if you read it it says um
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the studies the new versions of the products of these new mRNA shots will be
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approved without placebo control uh trials only based on um immunogenicity
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testing Uh uh they will be approved for people who are 65 and older
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uh regardless of health status And in addition to that to the category of the vulnerable that they described and then
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there’s a table for the vulnerable which includes all pregnant women and all
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women who were recently pregnant All women who are recently pregnant Yes
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Which means pregnant pregnant and breastfeeding women and breastfeeding Yeah This so it’s there It’s just a lie
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It’s a gigantic lie from the top of the Maha pyramid Yeah From the people who
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were supposed to save us from this Yeah And and by the way what I recently discovered because uh just a couple of
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days ago new Maderna shot was approved New MX spike It’s called MX Spike It’s um
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it’s a shot It’s a slightly different uh chemical composition I’m not going to get into it Uh but anyway so it was
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approved based only and I I reviewed uh briefly reviewed the study There isn’t
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enough information available for it yet but the study design was there was no placebo control at all It’s not a study
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How is that a study You I should ask Dr Macker and Dr Prasad to comment on this Please please come
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out and comment on how this is a study Okay And and then so so it was without
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placebo control it was only testing imunogenicity Uh they said “Oh it’s safe.” But I haven’t seen the data so I
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can’t verify that And so this is now approved for 65 and over and all these
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vulner so-called vulnerable categories in including pregnant women By the way th this this was uh the study was
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designed by Maderna in April uh 2023 Mhm
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Under Biden administration um under old you know FDA bad FDA not the good FDA that we have
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now Bad FDA designed that um helped them design that study gave them the guidance of what’s going to be acceptable in 2025
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when they go for the approval and perfect match They predicted the future
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Okay So uh that’s why I’m saying this new good FDA policy is an old Biden FDA
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policy that is now we you know bearing fruit So under the Biden administration
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years ago they said in 2025 there’s going to be a roll out of a new Maderna
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COVID injection and you’re going to use it for pregnant women Is that what you’re saying Well so so what happens in
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the FD in the FDA process with the pharmaceutical manufacturer pharmaceutical manufacturer needs a lot
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of time to design a large study like this The study was in uh something
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like 11,000 people So it’s it’s huge over uh 230 clinical sites It takes at
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least a year to design a study like this and often two to three years to design a study like this and then to conduct it
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even if it’s only a short-term study So Maderna went to the FDA in 2023
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according to clinicaltrials.gov This is when the studies first registered So they went to the FDA and they and the
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FDA gives guidance to the manufacturer of what’s going to be acceptable to the FDA as far as study design and end
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points and how it’s going to be conducted Mhm So what I’m saying evidenced from this being fully approved
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now and the study having been designed in 23 according to the same protocol it
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means that the FDA told them at that time that this is going to be acceptable Oh my
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god So my conclusion Wait so what you’re saying let me just try to tease out what
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you’re saying a little bit It looks like there’s a blueprint that’s been architected that
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was architected in one administration and they’re simply executing it in a whole new good the good FDA is just
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executing what the bad FTA laid out a few years ago Is that what you’re saying Sasha Yes exactly So so Macker and
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Prasad had nothing to do with this guidance It’s they just put their names on it the guidance was there under Peter
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Marx and uh Robert Caleiff So it’s like we changed the channel but it’s the same
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program It’s the same program Yeah The new new anchor
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Unbelievable Well let me go into you know you saying they created a table of
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the vulnerable and they called it’s called focused protection or they’re
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Yeah the language that they’re using is um basically well you know healthy
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people may not need it or healthy children may not need it but the unhealthy ones you know need to be
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protected and so therefore these brand new shots without placebo testing uh and
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only based on immunogenicity meaning just testing antibodies uh are going to be made available to all
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these vulnerable categories right and the vulnerable categories include pregnant women and unhealthy children
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which as we’ve discussed is most of the children in America per RFK Jr by the
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way right We So a child with allergies asthma we talked about this on Friday a
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child who’s overweight Um these are all vulnerable children now who are
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recommended to get the shot by the brand new good HHS That’s the bottom line
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right Sasha Exactly And and and another thing that people need to realize it’s
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not just the so the the CDC and the CDC and HHS they always have an out for
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themselves They always say slow slow down a tiny bit so everyone can follow your complex thought process So So the
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So what happens most of the time with these vaccine recommendations
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the HHS and CDC have an out for themselves They’re saying we just
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recommend you know we don’t force anyone right um then what happens after CDC
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recommends something let’s say they said vulnerable children meaning overweight
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children should get this shot but it’s just recommendation and it should be a shared decision you know you should
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discuss it with your doctor what happens then HHS pays the doctors the school and
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and this and the federal government pays the schools and the states and the school districts and everyone gets huge
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amounts of money to now propagate this recommendation Now what happens if you
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give people a lot of money and a recommendation that recommendation gets executed very well without question Well
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you’ve explained so much and that’s why you’re such an extraordinary mind is you
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don’t just look at the policy you look at the money flow you look at the politics as well
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Um wow So it’s almost more evil right It’s the exact same genocidal set of
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policies put in place by the genocidal bad guys that we just deposed but the
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good guys that we fought so hard to elect are saying “We’ve exempted
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pregnant women We’ve taken it off You know we’ve stopped recommending it for healthy kids.” You know all the
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influencers are going “Yay white night.” But in fact they’re just putting a a new
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wrapping over something that’s just as genocidal and deadly So so let’s now I
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want to go a little bit into your kind of I don’t want to say your
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ancestry but where you come from okay And what I mean is and and what you see in these categories What I mean by that
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is I I wrote a Substack a couple of years ago noticing that a lot of um medical freedom fighters came from
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people who had had genocide in their living memory or you know a couple of
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generations back and and I I
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I believe that you’ve had direct experience of communism right I think we talked about
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so so you’re intimately familiar with the genocides of the midentth century and with kind of genocidal totalitarian
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regimes So I was struck that you’re the first person to say I mean I was
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thinking it but you’re the first person to say it and you said it in more detail um that the categories that they’re
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carving out really map to kind of Nazi eugenics categories And I thoroughly
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agree with you as someone who’s closely studied the Nazi doctors in the early 30s and eugenic policy They’re they’re
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carving out and I don’t want to put words in your mouth but as I recall what you were saying and
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I’m agreeing they’re carving out categories of life unworthy of life Basically useless eaters as you put it
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correctly citing history And they’re saying “Okay the sick kids we’re going to give them something to make them sicker maybe kill them the pregnant
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women We’re going to make them you know give them something to maybe help them misaryry or lead them to misaryry Um you
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know we’re going to callull the vulnerable population and we’re going to use all these nice euphemisms which is
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also historically precedented to cover up what we’re doing I don’t want to put words in your mouth but would you speak
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more to that idea if that is accurate an accurate summary Yeah in general in general eugenics is
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uh targeting a group or groups of people for
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extermination and it over you know over periods of I mean it goes back all the
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way to Sparta so it’s been here for thousands of years um this idea that you
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know some people appoint themselves as the deciders of who’s going to live and
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who is going to die and typically Those are people in power Uh and uh the
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principle is we the deciders are going to decide which categories to target and
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uh you know after the Nazi Germany atrocities it became you know not very vogue to espouse these ideas even though
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in late late 19th century and early 20th century it was a fashionable high
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society attitude If you read 19th century literature it’s all about you know they always talk about good
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breeding and you know which is what eugenics is It literally means good breeding Yes In Greek All right And so
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um that’s how they were like well we need to prioritize the the good breeding and deprioritize the bad one And
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typically these policies were designed to uh targeting at poor population In
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the US it was you know at historically black population and and poor whites Um
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uh but now with this new iteration in 2020 it’s fairly indiscriminate It’s
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targeted at almost everyone And now they’ve figured out this new method of
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saying well this is in public health interest to protect the
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vulnerable by giving them these shots But the healthy ones and the only reason
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they’re doing this is because um they know that people who are who are already
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vaccinating So when your child is born they’re pushed on Khot Hepatitis Bshot a
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bunch of other shots immediately So in the first year of life or so they get something like 30 injections
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Unbelievable each one of them can make them sick and vulnerable and cause
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chronic illness and there’s like variety of ways why that happens So they know that people who already falling for the
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propaganda and for them for this poisoning they’re more likely to fall for the additional propaganda and and
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poisoning and that’s why this whole pipeline is set up this way if we can label you vulnerable or if a mother
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comes into the um uh pediatrics office and you know young especially young
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mothers and I I was there I was like that I fell for it I got my child injured this way so that’s why I’m
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that’s why I’m talking this way I was stupid I was neurotic I w I trusted the
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white codes and this is what happens as a new it’s not I did the same thing I vaccinated my kids thank god a
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generation earlier when they were fewer But I trusted the doctors You didn’t We didn’t know But please go on Yeah we
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didn’t know But I’m telling now young women young mothers anybody who’s planning to have children you know their
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grandmothers please educate yourself Don’t be like we were Don’t be like that Don’t be neurotic Don’t trust these
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people right Uh you know your child is born perfect You are perfect They don’t need any injections period Uh and so the
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the the thing is they come into the office young mothers are stressed they don’t sleep well they are tired all the
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time Easy target easy target for the white coat to say “Oh last cold was a
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little too long Oh you had multiple ear infections in six months Maybe your your
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child is probably immuno compromised They need extra protection.” Oh my god Bingo You got it You know my god This is
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what we need to fight against this because the doctors get that the pediatric practices majority of
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pediatric practices cannot exist without HHS payments for vaccinations They get very large bonuses covering almost uh
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all of their overhead for the year just from vaccinating and reaching the targets that that CDC and HHS give them
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That’s why they’re so obsessed about it Unbelievable And Shana Prej says
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kickbacks for medical treatment should not be allowed in any manner not for childhood vaccine chemo or treatment
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ordered by an oncologist or any situation at all Um and that’s right And
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um and DD Tutor very wisely posts 2021
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quote for the world at large normaly only returns when we’ve largely vaccinated the entire global population
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End quote Mr Bill Gates eugenist Um yeah And and we can see kind of more clearly
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with this new policy We’re going to inject the sick and we’re going to inject the pregnant now that we know how
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deadly it is It the the eugenic or genocidal nature of this program is is
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clearer I can’t believe it’s like a nightmare Sasha It’s clearer under our friends right the people we thought
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would save us than even it was under the Biden regime I mean how do you feel as
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someone who I don’t know about grew up but certainly you were born in under a
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totalitarian regime right You’re familiar with that Um how do you feel about the you know war is peace truth is
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lies work makes free language of you know we’re coming to save you from the
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vaccine Oh we’ll just inject your imunompromised child with something that will destroy their immune system more
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We’re just gonna you know give your child with heart damage something that damages his or her heart even more T
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talk about the euphemisms they’re using Yeah it’s it’s funny that you mention Orwell It’s like so yeah I I did grow up
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under the Soviet Union I was uh 20 when 2021 when the Soviet Union fell apart So
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I I grew up I went to the Soviet school I was subject to all the Soviet uh curriculum Marxist brainwashing didn’t
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work on me I mean so but but it they they kind of led up
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toward the end Um so when I was in high school already um I was in chemistry class I distinctly remember it was my
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favorite chemistry teacher She was amazing But I I already finished my
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work and I was uh at that time so Orwell was uh forbidden in the Soviet Union Oh
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wow that’s telling This is somewhere around 8586 They first published Russian
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translation of uh Orwell in a literally magazine It wasn’t a book yet It was a
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it was like a literature magazine Uh and so they published it there And I was
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sitting in chemistry class and like on my lap and reading it
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Wow Secretly Secretly And she noticed and like yelled at me Oh wow Good for
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you Well that was the beginning of an illustrious career Actually like she yelled at me but then she said then she
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looked at what I was reading She’s like “Oh no Keep keep on reading a good book.” Wow So do you recognize that
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obfiscation You know we’re going to protect the vulnerable Yes Yes and and and it it becomes it’s becomes clear
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like what I’m I’m actually you know I don’t get depressed when this kind of stuff comes out and people people just
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you know when I write an article everybody’s like oh my god this is so terrible I don’t get depressed when this
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stuff happens because it’s great when they reveal themselves It’s great when
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the enemy reveals themselves I’m not saying everyone at HHS is is the enemy or anyone at you know MA whatever is the
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enemy I am saying they are getting cornered and they’re even if they’re
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good people and they’re trying to do uh good things they’re forced by their
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enemy who is standing behind them to front this lie And these moves these
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steps reveal who is standing behind them and who is pointing the gun at them Yeah
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I want to gently push back at that idea because I’m hearing a lot of it Um I mean Marjorie Taylor Green today
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posted with this Maderna announcement of a whole new COVID vaccine you know this
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this is not very maha And I think uh Vigilant Fox did a thread on Marty
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Mccari basically saying “Oh there are so many people you know in HHS or in the
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FDA who are trying to undermine what you know Noble I and Noble RK Jr are doing.”
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And I just want to remind everyone they’re the bosses you know like Marjorie Taylor Green her candidate our
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president is the boss of MA He can change that policy right now if he wants to And RFK
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Jr and Marty Mccari are the bosses of the people that they claim are giving them so much difficulty You know you
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you’re in charge now guys Like the buck stops with you Remember that Harry Truman quote Like it’s your problem your
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it’s your agency You they work for you If they’re trying to undermine you fire
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them you know like expose them or resign you know like and make a statement I
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mean nobody So just gently to say Sasha and I know you’re one of the true heroins not getting kind of I don’t know
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dazzled by the Maha glamour the way that our the other team was dazzled by the
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Biden glamour um such as it was uh they they can stop it and and no
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one’s holding a gun to their head like that’s not real It’s metaphoric right No I no I I I do believe somebody is
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holding gun to their head but let’s let’s address So I didn’t want to kind of paint everyone as a as the enemy I
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don’t want to label everyone I have personal opinions This is my personal opinion about individuals So my personal
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opinion Mari and Prasad must go They are And and by the way Mari never changed
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his position He always pushed these shots on pregnant women Women Yeah Can I
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can I vent for a minute As a mom Sasha I I like So many men are holding up their
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syringes and saying “Oh come on little lady You know you may be pregnant but we know what’s best.” and and they’re
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they’re more than ever trying to inject pregnant women who are trying to carry their babies to term have healthy babies
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you know they’re they’re just racing after them to tackle them and and put this put this injection in their bodies
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I just want to say as a mother it is hard enough in a state of perfect health
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to successfully conceive you know have a healthy zygote have a healthy fetus
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carry a baby for nine months you know not drink wine not eat
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um sushi that could make your make yourself sick or damage your fetus you
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know avoid x-rays like all of the things we to carry a giant being getting bigger
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and bigger by the day produce that being out of your vagina or out of you know
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section which is major surgery I just want to say it for the record you know and then and then nurse this tiny you
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know being whose life depends on you or if you can’t nurse go through that
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journey and you know stay up all night as you note like it is a b it is a
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grueling marathon in the best of situations to birth a healthy baby and I
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am so I am like this so angry and done with these men saying come here little
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lady we know what’s best for you with this poison injection Like get out of the way or help us right Just have the
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babies that our bodies were designed to have I’m sorry I just wanted to say that And what are your thoughts as a mother I
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completely agree Oh by the way those were the same men in 19th century who were coming from autopsies to deliver
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babies causing blood poisoning in and and deaths of maternal deaths through
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the roof and would not take advice about washing their hands because they knew best They knew best You know they knew
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best Always like that Exactly Um well this is interesting DD Tudor says Ma
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Macheri is John’s Hopkins man part of the event 2011 tabletop exercise for the
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Corona virus outbreak held October 19th 2019 at the Pier Hotel in New York City Well I know that he is a John’s Hopkins
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guy and I know that John’s Hopkins is the belly of the beast But was he actually at that event 2011 tabletop
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exercise We don’t know but we definitely know that um John’s Hopkins is where the
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whole kind of biodense uh you know pandemic kind of narrative
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got birthed from and produced and propagated Um oh my god Sasha this is so
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bad So Oh and Deei says no he wasn’t actually there I get it but he was kind
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of he’s John’s Hopkins guy Yes Johns Hopkins And yeah he pushed always pushed
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these shots on pregnant women Um so he didn’t change his position It’s his position right Prasad was making fun of
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vaccine injured people on podcast publicly No Of vaccine injured pe people
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and he called uh Peter McCallo an idiot Um yeah And so he’s now in charge of
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vaccines at FDA How perfect Unbelievable Did you did people respond
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when you first broke the story of the Vsafe um 80% miscarriage rate a couple
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of years ago How or how did people respond Did it get the coverage it deserved It should be a front page news
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story Of course I I didn’t get any coverage I was very small at the time I just started writing my stuff Actually I
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did publish this this article first on um trial site news I was publishing there briefly I left because I was
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getting every time I would publish a paper like this I would get a call from the editor and fourhour discussion Uh
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and and I was like first of all I’m doing this for free Second of all I’m too old for this BS
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Uh and so uh anyway so that was first published there you know got some comments but literally I I I’m get I was
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getting maybe a thousand views or 2,000 views at the time for nothing and of course it didn’t get
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coverage you know the the the Maderna documents discussion I went on RFK
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Junior’s podcast that was in 22 and we discussed it you know broke the story
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there it got some coverage at that time and some some kind of like very weak
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fact checks and stuff like that but again and then it’s all forgotten and now it’s we’re we’re here again
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discussing it again right unbelievable We and we didn’t stop the juggernaut it
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would appear Um I also remember from when my team
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looked at the Maderna documents that were released later than that uh that
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they said that it was hard to get anything as I mentioned you know useful out of what they saw but that for sure
45:45
they could see that there was the same abortive fashion quality to the MNA
45:51
injection as there was to the Fiser injection So in terms of not losing your
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baby the Fiser and Maderna choice was really a false choice right Did you see the same thing Yeah exactly Yeah It’s
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the same mechanism for all of these shots They distribute to all the organs including placenta ovaries the fetus
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they will so now there’s a a study showing that they destroy about 60% of female eggs which are non-renewable and
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each baby girl is born with exactly the number of eggs she’s going to have So if
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a woman is carrying a female uh baby then her ovary is also going to get
46:30
destroyed because this thing passes through the placenta Oh my god So Amy
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Kelly found that this lipid nanoparticles pass into the testes of baby boys in uterero and degrade their
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testes and their their mas the hormones of masculinity when they turn into adolescence But this is the first I’m
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hearing that the lipid nano particles also pass into baby girls in uterero and
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destroy their eggs even before they’re born Is that what you’re saying Yeah that this is this is how it’s designed
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And another thing I wanted to point out I was also one of the few people who
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reviewed actually probably also the only person who fully reviewed um the the
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Department of Defense contracts that were given to Madna and Fizer Yes And as
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you remember Fizer funded their own R&D Yes But Maderna received hum humongous
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amounts of money from the government since they were funded founded in 2011
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Um and these Department of Defense contracts for these shorts specified that Maderna must test um multiple
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injections for reproductive toxicity and the way it’s written and the way they run ran experiments and what the
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experiments shown and then subsequently that the whole push into inject pregnant
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women at every point uh tells me that they were intentionally testing how many
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shots does it take to sterilize and I think they arrived at conclusion of somewhere between five and then 10 10
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would be to like fully you know 100% So now think about it So they’re pushing
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about three shots on the pregnant woman Uh which means that a bunch of it will
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go to the baby So baby already gets like two or three before they’re born And then you know up until very recently
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they were pushing three additional shots before age of 15 months on every infant
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And now they’re saying on every vulnerable infant God that’s the math
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And the scientific community has known since 2017 that lipid nano particles do
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traverse every membrane in the human body and do cause reproductive damage There are studies in the NIH database So
48:54
why did people like Robert Malone use lipid nano particles if they knew that it would cause reproductive damage
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Well that’s a that’s a that’s a good question I mean I have my own opinion about Robert Malone Uh but I mean I
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think he’s a chief propagandist of this whole operation Um but uh the you know
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the the it’s it’s you know that people can have opinions about that but the
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fact is FDA was fully aware of the damage that uh these types of
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technologies can cause and especially for reproduction and it’s it’s all documented It’s called regulatory
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knowledge and it’s all was all documented in uh regulatory guidance documents that FDA publishes for all
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sorts of topics including for this and I was pointing to this also throughout
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2020 2021 Uh there were numerous guidance documents issued by FDA for
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both preclinical testing and clinical testing of these classes of products uh
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and clearly documents that these are very dangers uh various classes of risk and harm definitely not for pregnant
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women And now we come to 2020 and there’s a complete uh 180 degree flip as
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if and every and then and then again everybody gives them an excuse well they didn’t know it’s such a new
50:18
technology but I mean they they talk out of both sides of their mouth because depending on the situation it’s either
50:24
nobody knew and it was brand new technology or oh no this these these have been in in research and development
50:30
for 20 years and they’re safe Right Exactly It’s almost as if they pull out a different version of the answer
50:36
depending on the circumstance While I’ve got you Sasha I want to share a couple
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of more little bits of information I found about the whole be safe study Um
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and I wrote about this in my book The Bodies of Others Um again I’m not a I’m not a specialist like you are but this
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was notable to me just as a woman One of the things that was struck me was that the Vssafe platform is a phone app So
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you’re expected to you know self-report everything that happens to you It’s not
51:08
your doctor your gynecologist or your obstitrician reporting what happens to you And the other thing is if you lose
51:16
your baby and es and just thinking about especially if you lose your baby quite far along in the pregnancy that’s a very
51:22
traumatic event But the Vssafe system um set it up so that if you didn’t pick up
51:29
your phone app and like you know enter I lost my baby at 7 months or whatever it
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you know it it wasn’t going to register your baby as a lost baby So that’s number one Number two this just blew my
51:43
mind You think that the Vsafe data is being processed by specialists or by
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researchers but in fact it was like a call center where people who were
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complete nonspecialists you know were just like minimum wage you know minions
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were hired to just tabulate oh this chick lost her baby or this chick didn’t lose her baby Um I just found that to be
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extraordinary The last thing is that as I recall another way that Shimabukuru
52:13
got the good outcomes that he falsely reported was he cut off the the um
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longevity of the surveillance or the timeline of surveillance two weeks after a baby is born And a lot of problems
52:27
arise for babies uh later than two weeks on You’re not going to see them at just two weeks um of life So those are just
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three things I don’t know if you know that’s old news to you but I thought I would share them with you while I had you Yeah those are the usual tricks that
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they use um to Yeah to to show the favorable results for themselves Another
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thing about Vafe if you’re dead you’re not going to report that on your cell phone Right So Right Right No you’re
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right We don’t know In other words we don’t know how many women just died We don’t know how many women died or
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anybody died And a typical another typical I’m just reviewing um you know this is for future discussion I’m
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reviewing um you know heads up everyone uh a self self- amplifying RNA shot is
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coming uh it’s it’s not the the most recent MNA but it’s going to be approved it’s by Arcturus uh this company called
53:20
Arcturus and their platform was already approved in Europe and in Japan and
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they’re currently running a study in the US using self- amplifying RNA for approval which is expected either June
53:32
or July Oh my and and I’ve reviewed their previous study they did in in
53:39
Vietnam and it’s kind of like carbon copy standard operating procedure of Fiser trials which is same same tricks
53:46
they used uh majority of patients enrolled in a central military
53:52
hospital right uh the uh the the uh
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inclusion and excl but but this whole thing about we’re going to inject everyone and then which going to kind of
54:04
like stand back and forget that they exist And if they call us uh with
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something maybe we’ll record it But if they don’t call us oh my god we’re going
54:15
same trick It’s like if they die and and forget to call us because they’re dead you know party on right Who cares right
54:24
But I mean Sasha this is we’re we’re kind of cynically laughing at the horror of it all but but
54:31
this is not um an imaginary problem because maternal deaths in childirth are
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up by 40% because these lipid nano particles damage the placenta Women are hemorrhaging They’re they’re having all
54:44
kinds of problems in childirth as a result of this Right So women could be dying is my point and and the data won’t
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they and they and they will deny it and the data won’t show it But I I’ve I’ve had so many experiences I’ve been
54:58
testifying together with um really good OBGYNS who are on on the side of the
55:04
truth here and they’re reporting in their practices great harm from these shots and you know
55:11
horrible harm from the shots women are not being able to conceive having miscarriages having very very
55:17
complicated pregnancies where before you know this was a rare occurrence now it’s common occurrence uh babies are born
55:24
with tumors um I I had I had a personal experience of somebody I know her baby
55:31
she was vaccinated in pregnancy and and her baby developed a tumor but it was after two it was like several months
55:37
after oh my god it’s it’s horrific I mean I’m just thinking about the
55:43
234 women in the Fiser trials whose records were lost They could all be dead
55:49
Like we we don’t know or all their babies could be dead And I’m also thinking about another nightmare thing
55:56
like you’re reminding me of all the nightmares Um the babies they know they knew that a lot of babies would be born
56:02
with a gap between their lungs and their chest wall and it doesn’t show up at birth like right when the babies are
56:08
born But the babies get into respiratory distress after they’re taken home and have to be brought back to the ER And
56:14
they knew that this would happen with this injection So what like in our last few minutes what are these guys doing
56:21
What how how what’s happening politically Sasha How could Maha be okaying an even more
56:29
murderous version of what we live through One one thing that Maha is not honest
56:35
with uh and this includes all kinds of Maha places both both in the HHS but
56:41
also in the political the Cong Congress and other places Many people know about
56:47
this What they’re not honest about is that COVID is a military operation ongoing military operation HHS is not in
56:54
charge of it HHS is just fronting it as a public health event but it’s not a public health event But why I’m sure I’m
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sorry to interrupt you Go ahead Sasha Right So so this was initiated by uh
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DARPA uh specifically even before Trump like a months before Trump made an
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announcement of emergency declarations and all that Uh now Trump is fully on
57:17
board with with this operation He knows about this Um however you know uh recently uh Debbie Lurman my colleague
57:24
and I published what’s called COVID dosier So we’ve documented the facts about this military operation all over
57:30
the world in My god All pretty pretty much all regions of the world Uh there’s
57:36
evidence that this is driven by military All the um seab burns so chemical
57:42
biological radiological nuclear uh weapons laws have been invoked Uh the
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emergency has been extended COVID emergency has been extended now uh for a decade essentially until end of 2029 Oh
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my god The law says that RFK Jr has the sole authority to extend or terminate
58:01
these declarations and he knows about it very well I’ve published an open letter to him also It’s on my Twitter profile
58:08
pinned and it’s on my Substack Uh and the laws is explicit that it’s
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only the opinion of HHS secretary whether we have a COVID emergency or we
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don’t have a COVID emergency Obviously an emergency like a pandemic emergency that lasts 10 years is nonsense and he
58:26
knows about it It’s and and it’s not in public health interest at all to extend these declarations because all they do
58:32
is provide full liability coverage both for manufacturers and anybody who
58:37
injects anyone with these things Right So so him him not terminating it is a
58:45
huge slap in all of our faces who who worked very hard to get him elected who
58:50
who you know we we kind of held our nose and voted for Trump because we thought
58:57
that he’s going to do it because he when he was running he fully knew it and know
59:02
I’ve I’ve I’ve discussed this with him There’s a two-hour podcast called Militarized Healthcare also two years
59:09
ago There’s no question that he doesn’t know it and he knows that it’s within his authority He has he has not done it
59:15
Doesn’t seem like he’s planning to do it Nobody’s even mentioning this God but
59:20
this is what’s underlying this whole Maha is pretending stuff We are all upset that they’re not delivering on the
59:27
promises It’s all underlying this whole thing about the PREP act prepack declaration and then military uh seaburn
59:34
laws being invoked to keep all of this in place Unbelievable So my last
59:39
question I’m sure you’re asked this all the time Why would our own military make
59:44
war on our own people Because they’re not our military That’s it They’re not our
59:50
military and we’re not their people and they’re not even treating their own service members as as their military and
59:56
their people Right So who’s are they Who’s are they Well it’s a good question We should start you know so the first
1:00:02
thing I’m I’m recommending is uh this needs to be and and by the way all of this was also delivered on request to
1:00:10
Senator Ron Johnson in December 2022 He organized the zoom call invited me
1:00:16
Katherine Watt a bunch of other people discussed this asked us to write a memo about this We provided the memo We
1:00:22
provided 600 megabytes attachment documenting every word in that memo And
1:00:28
uh so he sat on it for all this time doing hearings I mean I I applaud his
1:00:34
hearings and speaking on behalf of of the victims That should be done But again nobody’s saying a word about this
1:00:41
And I am recommending to declassifi first of all declassify this Yeah Start
1:00:47
transparency like we’re promised right And call key witnesses starting with Colonel Matt Haburn of DARPA Oh Who
1:00:55
placed the phone call on February 4th 2020 to the pharmaceutical consortium
1:01:01
telling them COVID has been declared national security threat So that person needs to be questioned in front of
1:01:07
Congress about who gave him the orders to do this phone call and what was the
1:01:13
decision and who how was this justified that this is a national security threat Yeah we we have to have those answers I
1:01:20
I’m beginning to feel like Senator Johnson is kind of the catch and kill
1:01:26
designate for you know problematic information But um I I we need that
1:01:33
those investigations but the people we trust to to get to the bottom of all of this and stop it seem to be the ones you
1:01:40
know opening the floodgates Good lord Sasha we’ve come to the end of our time
1:01:46
Well I can’t announce it yet because I haven’t checked in with the rest of our team but stand by for a very exciting
1:01:52
announcement There will be a scruffy grassroots or scrappy I should say
1:01:58
grassroots alternative hopefully that you’ll hear about soon and Sashaovo thank you people in the comments are so
1:02:05
grateful to you and they want to know where and I want you to tell people where can they find you and I also want
1:02:11
to remind people to support Sasha Latapova support her substack because
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you get the media that you support seriously go ahead Sasha how do people find you right so all of the stuff that
1:02:22
I’ve discussed here is on my Substack and the easiest way to navigate is you
1:02:27
go to the pinned post which summarizes all the key points and has links to all
1:02:33
the key articles Um I make uh all the key materials I make available
1:02:38
completely free Uh my new articles are free I’m grateful for support but I also
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feel people it’s hard times and people you know whoever can support me I’m I’m
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absolutely grateful and also I’m on Twitter I’m publishing more on Twitter now or X rather and uh you can find me
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there as well Sasha Deova thank you I mean you’re
1:03:00
really going to stand in our history books if they’re correctly written as a a towering figure who has been on the
1:03:07
right side of history and an advocate for for women and babies and humanity this whole time And I I think that I
1:03:15
think your most important impact is still ahead you know as important as experience No I do I do You’re one of
1:03:21
the the few who who has just without you I can’t imagine any anything that has
1:03:27
been good would have come to light So thank you And everyone remember to support Daily Clout and support um
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Outspoken if you care about interviews like this and independent reporting and we’ll continue to shine a light on what
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the incredible Sasha is doing and her heroic message to the world Thank you
1:03:46
Sasha Thank you Naomi Yeah I mean I I’m I’m in awe of your work as well So you know it’s a mutual admiration club
1:03:54
Well it’s good to have friends Take care Sash And we’ll talk to you soon Thank you so much The
